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I imagine it is difficult for the ocean to freeze solid due to the low freezing point of salt water and the insulating effect of the formation of sea ice over the cool but still liquid ocean water.

Certainly for the ocean to freeze entirely, I think first the entire ocean would have to cool to near freezing even in the tropics. I also think that even supposing the Earth's atmosphere were at a uniform temperature below freezing (say -20 °C worldwide), the ocean may still not freeze since it receives approx. 0.1 W/m² in heat flux from the Earth's interior.

Assuming a simple model with an atmosphere of uniform global temperature, and assuming that the layer of sea ice accommodates all of the temperature difference between the surface/air and the still unfrozen water which is I assumed to be isothermal at near freezing, with simplifying assumptions about the properties of ice as an insulator and heat flux from the mantle,

I related the heat flux from the cold surface/air layer to the heat flux from the mantle, assuming the isothermal ocean had reached a state of constant temperature

$h(T - t_0 ) = Q_g$, where

  • $h$ is a thermal property of the ice ($k/d$ where $d$ is the ice thickness)
  • $T$ is the constant water temperature of near 275 K
  • $t_0$ is the external temperature
  • And $Q_g$ is the heat flux from the mantle

From this, I calculated that in this very simple model the required temperature of the air to create a layer of sea ice of thickness d can be found with this expression:

$t_0 = T - (Q_gd)/k$

Using a thickness of 4000 m, which would be a layer of sea ice that fills most of the ocean, I guess that the surface temperature of the Earth would have to be around 120 K for the oceans to freeze solid.

I don't think that I am right- obviously much is neglected in this model and some of my assumptions may not be warranted. Clearly, the Earth would have to be much colder than any time in its history for the oceans to freeze at great depth, but my question is would it have to be even colder than I have guessed, or could the oceans freeze completely or almost completely at warmer global temperatures than 120 K?

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  • $\begingroup$ google.com/search?q=%22snowball+earth%22+temperature $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 7, 2021 at 21:18
  • $\begingroup$ @KeithMcClary The surface of all the world's oceans is conjectured to have entirely frozen during a Neoproterozoic glaciation, but the ocean was not entirely frozen to the seabed, not even mostly frozen to that depth. For what it is worth, there are some credible arguments that Earth never completely froze during that glaciation and the equatorial area remained mostly ice free. On the same website you link to, the authors claim that snowball Earth with its proposed -50 C global avg temperature would have perhaps only had ice a couple meters thick at 0°: snowballearth.org/life.html $\endgroup$
    – user13823
    Commented Dec 7, 2021 at 22:27
  • $\begingroup$ Figure1 here has the temperature profile at the South Pole. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 8, 2021 at 3:27
  • $\begingroup$ It would have to be very cold? :) $\endgroup$
    – Tardy
    Commented Jan 29, 2022 at 18:25
  • $\begingroup$ You run into 2 problems 1. s the oceans freeze they get saltier, which means they then need to be even colder to freeze more, at -21C the highest possible concentration saltwater would freeze. 2 but getting all the ocean to that temperature requires cooling down the mantle. because you have to cool the magma below the oceans down so you have no volcanoes. $\endgroup$
    – John
    Commented Jun 24, 2023 at 3:23

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I imagine it is difficult for the ocean to freeze solid due to the low freezing point of saltwater and the insulating effect of the formation of sea ice over the cool but still liquid ocean water.

It is difficult and It doesn't happen often. The entire earth was frozen before but that was because most landmasses were at the equator and weathering was very fast.

"Temperatures on a snowball Earth are estimated to have reached minus 58 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 50 degrees Celsius). As the ice spread, more heat was reflected back into space rather than absorbed by the planet, dropping temperatures down in a runaway effect that sped the formation of ice." (Space.com)


Certainly for the ocean to freeze entirely, I think first the entire ocean would have to cool to near freezing even in the tropics.

This technically really hasn't ever happened before in geological history, due to the sun and heat influx from volcanos. (Considering there was landmass in the equator). If the ice somehow created a runaway affect, this would mean that the ice reflected back more heat/sunlight than it received. P.S: If your not taking land into account then the oceans would for sure freeze at some point (not now though) :)

Now for the grand question: (Drumroll)

How cold would the Earth have to be for the oceans to freeze entirely?

So obviously there weren't any thermometers back in the day so we can only estimate. It's estimated it was minus 58 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 50 degrees Celsius) was the temperature for snowball earth (Plus a major redistribution of continents.)


So that wraps up our answer for today, please let me know if my answer is not in line with your question.

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